Agenda and minutes

Licensing and Appeals Committee - Tuesday, 23rd January, 2024 7.00 pm

Venue: David Hicks 1 - Civic Offices, Shute End, Wokingham RG40 1BN

Contact: Luciane Bowker  Democratic & Electoral Services Specialist

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18.

Apologies

To receive any apologies for absence.

Minutes:

There were no apologies for absence.

19.

Minutes of Previous Meeting pdf icon PDF 109 KB

To confirm the Minutes of the Meeting held on 18 October 2023.

 

Minutes:

The Minutes of the meeting of the Committee held on 18 October 2023 were confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Chair.

20.

Declaration of Interest

To receive any declarations of interest.

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest.

21.

Public Question Time

To answer any public questions.

 

A period of 30 minutes will be allowed for members of the public to ask questions submitted under notice.

 

The Council welcomes questions from members of the public about the work of this committee.

 

Subject to meeting certain timescales, questions can relate to general issues concerned with the work of the Committee or an item which is on the Agenda for this meeting.  For full details of the procedure for submitting questions please contact the Democratic Services Section on the numbers given below or go to www.wokingham.gov.uk/publicquestions

Minutes:

There were no public questions.

22.

Member Question Time

To answer any member questions.

Minutes:

There were no Member questions.

23.

An approach for tackling gambling related harm pdf icon PDF 104 KB

To receive and consider a report containing information about ways to tackle gambling related harm.

Minutes:

Keiran Hinchliffe, Licensing Service Manager presented the report which outlined best practices for  tackling gambling related harm, in line with Licensing legislation.

 

The Local Government Association (LGA) Guidance was reviewed as part of the research undertaken on this issue.

 

An underage sales testing operation was conducted on all betting shop premises in the borough during December 2023 and all operators passed with a challenge to age verification of the young person.

 

A test purchase was also carried out on an Adult Gaming Centre in Wokingham, which resulted in a failure.  Licensing Officers were currently working with the management of that premises to help identify issues and discuss training needs.  A further test purchase on the premises would be completed within the next six months.

 

Licensing Officers also carried out compliance inspections of betting shop premises and found that they had local risk assessments to hand and were aware of Gamcare.  They also had advice leaflets available and posters on display for sensible gaming.

 

The operation described above was a fresh approach and there was no benchmarking.

 

During the discussion of the item the following comments and questions were made:

 

·           Members were pleased that this work had been carried out and thanked Officers for their effort.  They were interested to know if there would be periodic operations to ascertain that premises continued to uphold best practices?

·           Members asked if premises were just aware of Gamcare of if they were also certified? What could be done to support them to gain certification?

·           Keiran Hinchliffe agreed to check operators’ certification with Gamcare and report back to the Committee;

·           In relation to the continuation of testing operations, a risk assessment would be undertaken to prioritise Officers workload.  It was apparent that monitoring young people’s access to gaming machines was an area that should continue to be prioritised;

·           The Chairman stated that the young people running for the election of Youth MP for the borough expressed concern about the issues of drugs and vaping.  She asked that a report be brought to the next meeting for discussion about those issues;

·           It was suggested that a joint approach to tackling vaping related issues be considered, given that vapes’ disposal was problematic;

·           Keiran Hinchliffe informed that Trading Standards colleagues were carrying out test purchasing for underage sales of vapes.  They also had some powers in relation to infringement of vapes labelling;

·           Members asked about staff capacity within the Licensing service to carry out test purchasing operations and what criteria was used to decide where to undertake it?

·           Members were informed that there was currently one Licensing Officer in post and several Licensing Processing Officers supporting the processing of applications;

·           Officers took guidance from elected Members as to which areas of work to focus on.  For larger events there was a network of Licensing Managers in the local area who shared resources, for example help was given to monitor Reading Festival and in return help was received for events such as the Henley Regatta;

·           The service also  ...  view the full minutes text for item 23.

24.

Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Licensing Policy 2024 pdf icon PDF 140 KB

To receive and consider the Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Licensing Policy 2024 report.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Licensing Policy 2024 report was presented by Keiran Hinchliffe.

 

Members were asked to consider the amended conditions regarding the licensing requirements for vehicles which were listed on page 21 of the agenda, paragraph 22.

 

Of note was the proposed restriction to the age of non-adapted vehicles that exclusively undertake local education authority contracts for education transport to 15 years.  This change would impact 8 existing school transport vehicles.  The oldest vehicle in this category was 19 years old.  It was up to the Committee to determine the imposition of an age restriction, the Committee could choose 20 years or another number of years, or no age restriction at all.

 

Members were also requested to note the amendment to the convictions policy around plying for hire, touting, and driving without insurance offences to a recommendation for seven years to have elapsed since conviction or endorsement.  And driving with a mobile phone to five years, which met the Department for Transport (DfT) statutory guidance on convictions for use of handheld devices.

 

During the discussion of the item the following comments and questions were made:

 

·           Members asked what the total number of school transport vehicles was and their age distribution.  Keiran Hinchliffe informed that there were 40 vehicles in this category, with the majority being 10 to 15 years old.  There were three vehicles that were modified for wheelchair use, those would have incurred considerable expenditure to be adapted;

·           Keiran Hinchliffe explained that the 15 year age restriction already existed for private hire vehicles.  The proposal was to extend this age restriction to hackney carriage vehicles and apply an age restriction to school transport vehicles (school transport vehicles were not subject to age restriction under the current policy).  It was also proposed that grandfather rights be applied to hackney carriage vehicles in the fleet, but apply the new restriction to new licences;

·           The amendments, if agreed by the Committee, would be incorporated into paragraphs 3.29 to 3.33 of the policy;

·           Members asked if any progress had been made in relation to changing the wording to include other providers, not just Blue Lamp?

·           Members were informed that work was underway with the Council’s Home to School Transport Manager to ascertain the training requirements and possible providers;

·           It was explained that the new policy required all vehicles that were older than five years to undertake biannual checks.  Any new age restrictions imposed by the Committee would be communicated to drivers to set out the Council’s expectations;

·           Members asked what were the School Transport and Environmental Health (concerning air pollution) departments views on the proposals?

·           Keiran Hinchliffe informed that the Environmental Health and Climate Emergency departments had been consulted.  There was a clear understanding that a balanced approach needed to be taken in relation to imposing Euro 5 and Euro 6 emissions standards and the need to transport children to school.  The School Transport team was anxious about the potential implications of the proposal;

·           In response to a question Keiran  ...  view the full minutes text for item 24.

25.

Review of Statement of Licensing Policy 2024 pdf icon PDF 123 KB

To receive and consider the Review of Statement of Licensing Policy 2024 report.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Keiran Hinchliffe presented the Review of Statement of Licensing Policy 2024 report.

 

The Council had a duty to review its Statement of the Licensing Policy every five years.  The Committee was requested to consider the representations received during the consultation period and make recommendations before the policy was submitted for approval by the Council.

 

The key proposed amendments to the policy were as described in the agenda report.  The consultation showed that there was an overwhelming majority (92%) support of the new measures being proposed.

 

Keiran Hinchliffe drew particular attention to the measures aimed at promoting women’s safety in the night time, and the safety of employees going back home late at night.

 

With regards to the responses received by the Remenham residents and the Remenham Association in relation the possible adoption of a Cumulative Impact Assessment (CIA), legal advice had been sought and the advice was to defer the consideration of a CIA to the next meeting.  The reason was that this issue required more research to enable a full and proper discussion of CIA.

 

Members were informed that there was a different set of governance procedure in relation to CIA, which was separate from the discussion around the main Licensing Policy.

 

During the discussion of the item the following comments and questions were made:

 

·           Members pointed out that the safety measures described in the report about getting home safely after work should be applied to all workers, not just women;

·           In response to a question, Keiran Hinchliffe clarified that the consideration of a CIA would be subject to consultation with all parties affected by it, including the parish Council, the residents and businesses.  It was appropriate to defer this item for a more detailed discussion;

·           Members asked for clarification on what was meant by ‘low cost’ for the pre-application advice?  Was there capacity in the team to undertake this work?

·           Members were informed that the pre-application advice was low cost if compared to solicitors’ fees, the price was set in a cost recovery model.  In terms of capacity, the officer time would still be needed during the process of consultation, having to meet with the licence holder, potentially having to organise mediation meetings.  In this model there was an element of cost recovery for the Council and potential benefit for applicants in helping them to avoid pitfalls;

·           In relation to getting home safely after work, Members wondered if 11pm was an appropriate time for the borough.  After a robust debate it was agreed that 11pm was in line with national guidelines and suitable for Wokingham;

·           Members were informed that the new measures in relation to getting home safely would only apply to new licence applications or renewal licence applications;

·           Rachel Lucas, Legal Advisor to the Committee questioned the use of the word ‘supplemented’ as this was not sufficiently clear.  It was agreed that it was more appropriate to use the word ‘reimbursed’ instead;

·           In response to a comment, Keiran Hinchliffe stated that it would be appropriate to request  ...  view the full minutes text for item 25.